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Interview With Billie Letts (July, 2004)
Billie Letts is the author of numerous short stories. Her first novel
won the Walker Percy Award and the 1996 Oklahoma Book Award. She lives
in Oklahoma with her husband, Dennis.
With her prizewinning #1 New York Times bestseller, Where the Heart Is,
and her acclaimed second novel, The Honk and Holler Opening Soon, Billie
Letts joined the ranks of America's best-loved storytellers.
Where the Heart Is was also selected as an Oprah's Book Club pick
and Billie tells what it was like to receive the phone call from Oprah in her
article, "The Call That Changed My Life".
In her latest novel, Shoot the Moon, Billie returns to the heartland to tell the tale of a small Oklahoma town and the mystery that has haunted its residents for years. In 1972, the town of DeClare, Oklahoma, was consumed by the terrifying murder of Gaylene Harjo and the disappearance of her baby, Nicky Jack. When the child's pajama bottoms were found on the banks of Willow Creek, everyone feared Nicky Jack was dead, although his body was never found. Nearly thirty years later, Nicky Jack mysteriously returns to DeClare. His sudden reappearance will stun the people of DeClare and stir up long-buried emotions and memories. But what Nicky Jack discovers among the people who remember the night he vanished is far more than he, or anyone, bargains for. Piece by piece emerges a story of dashed hopes, desperate love, and a shocking act with repercussions that will cry out for justice...and redemption.
Where did you get the idea for this novel? Was there a real-life child disappearance that intrigued or haunted you?
We were living in Champaign, Illinois, where my husband was working toward his doctorate; I was teaching in a small town high school thirty miles away. One afternoon after school, I drove back to Champaign and went to pick Tracy up. The manager of the day care met me at the door to ask why I hadn't come sooner as I said I would when I'd phone earlier in the day. When I told her I hadn't called, she explained to that a woman who sounded like me had phoned asking her to have Tracy ready and waiting because we had a family emergency, so I would come for him soon. And given the urgency of the situation, the caller asked her to have him wait outside. As a result, the manager had dressed Tracy in his coat, hat, gloves and sent him outside to wait on the swings. Fortunately, after a half hour or so of sitting in the cold, he'd come back inside to "thaw out." Of course, we reported the incident to the police, but nothing ever came to light as to who might have made that call. Now, some thirty-five years later, each time I read about an abducted child, I relive the fear I felt that day. I don't know how many children were abducted back in 1968, but I believe someone was planning for my little boy to be one of them. The good Baptists called it the Den of Sin because of the gambling that took place inside.
Females weren't welcome in the Oklahoma pool halls back then, so if I needed to reach Dennis, I would have to call. It took me some weeks to learn that the second the phone rang, the place echoed with a chorus of "I'm not here."
If speaking to my husband was especially important, I had to go downtown and knock on King's window, an act frowned on by the old-timers. So you can imagine what the reaction was when one day I didn't knock, didn't wait on the sidewalk. Instead, I marched into King's trying to look fearless and fiery as I encountered two-dozen men, all of who were speechless. The dark, ugly room was smoky and absolutely silent.
I have never seen Dennis move faster than he did that day as he jumped up from the domino table, escorted me outside and followed me home.
I am happy to report that some of the men present still remember and rehash he day a woman entered the pool hall.
All your novels have been set in small towns. What is there about small town
life that interests and inspires you? Is DeClare, Oklahoma a real place?
Though I was born and raised in Tulsa, I've spent more than half my life in towns of only a few thousand, but it's here, in these off-the-interstate places, towns with two stoplights and one taxi, where real "characters" emerge in a way they don't in cities, towns where these "characters" are more easily known than they are in metropolitan areas.
So these are the places I go to tell my stories: a town with a run-down drive-in caf? operated by a Vietnam veteran in a wheelchair; a pool hall owned by a woman who makes peanut butter pies, frequented by four old geezers called the "domino boys"; an AME church, an abandoned school bus and a massive retail store where a Vietnamese man, a Native American woman, and a seventeen-year-old pregnant girl live secretly, hiding out from a world that has offered then little solace.
Is DeClare a real place? Only in my mind and the minds of the readers who might leave the interstate and visit this small town for a few hours someday.
You have created two very nasty villains in this novel in Arthur McFadden. Another
villain in the novel is O Boy Daniels, his half-brother. Was it challenging or just
fun to create such bad "bad guys."
Several years ago, my husband and I were making a long drive to North Carolina. A
copy of Where the Heart Is on tape had arrived shortly before we left home, so
I took it along so we could listen to it as we traveled.
I think we were on the third cassette when I switched it off and began to cry. My
husband asked me what was wrong.
"That poor girl," I said. "Novalee. She's just so vulnerable."
"Well, hell," he said. "You made her that way."
"Writing is a strange endeavor!
What gave you the idea to let Gaylene speak "from beyond the grave" in her
diaries? You had to keep her "voice" that of a young girl. Was that easy or
difficult to do?
Jamie's idea led me to create another twenty-five of thirty entries in just two days, a real record for me, as I am a slow writer. But I could recall my own teen years, could remember too clearly what seemed important to me then-my buckteeth (much too big); the size of my beasts (much too small); boyfriends (how to get them); freckles (how to get rid of them).
By crawling back into my teenage skin, pulling up some old memories, both the pleasant and the painful, I found the "voice" of Gaylene telling me her story.
A major character, if not the main character, of this novel is Mark Albright aka
Nicky Jack Harjo. Is it difficult, as a woman writer, to find a male sensibility or
voice? Is it easier to write from a woman's point of view?
That wasn't the case, though, with Mark/Nick. He was, in the early part of the book, snobbish and hateful. He was raised by affluent adoptive parents who provided private schools, nannies, travel, wealth-everything that contributed to his acting so superior.
But after I got to know him better, I realized that he was an unhappy loner who needed to be loved. We got along much better after that.
Unmarried, single mothers have now appeared in all your books. This book
features two such young women, Gaylene and Ivy-and tangentially introduces a third,
Lantana. Previously, you have said you put your characters in situations where they
must make their own choices about bringing another life into the world. But since
your characters are your creation, aren't you, the author, really making their choices
when they opt for abortion, adoption, or keeping their babies? Do you think you will
continue to use this issue in your next book?
As a fiction writer, my choice depends on the character's story line. For example, if Novalee Nation had not been pregnant, I would have written a very different book. The same can be said for Vena Takes Horse, Ivy, and other characters I've created.
As a woman, I'm so glad I made the decision to have and keep all my children. But my decision is not the right decision for all women because of a number of circumstances. Therefore, I respect and will fight for a woman's right to choose. And in future books I write, I will continue to explore the choices women are often forced to make.
Your use of humor shines through in your "quirky" characters, such as the
wonderful domino players. How planned is your introduction of a humorous scene? Do
you tend to juxtapose a lighter episode with a darker one? Would you categorize your
books as comedies or tragedies...or something else?
I suppose I'd categorize my books as "slice of life" novels, what happens to my characters seems to me to be the result of living in the chaos of the real world.
How do you plot your novels? Do you have the whole story in your mind before
you start...let the story take on a life of its own...or use some other method such
as a story board? For example, how and when during the creation of this novel did you
come to the decision to have Kyle kill Arthur?
I didn't know when I started Shoot the Moon who had killed Gaylene Harjo. At
first, I thought it was O Boy Daniels. Then I decided it was Arthur McFadden. When the
identity of the killer came to me, it was truly a thought of the moment. After that,
the rest of the story started falling into place, including Arthur's death.
You seem to prefer a "third person" point of view in writing your novels.
Have you ever written in the first person? Is there a character in this story who
most resembles you and speaks with your own voice?
If there is a character in Shoot the Moon who most speaks with my voice,
it's Ivy. She sounds quick and funny, but she's no more sure of herself than I am. We're
both vulnerable, but we try to hide our insecurity with humor.
Issues of race are like a background noise in this book, not the obvious trigger
of any crisis or climax, but always "loading the gun" one might say. What prompted
you to make Gaylene a Cherokee?
In addition, I feel that anytime a character is not Caucasian, Anglo-Saxon, and Protestant, a story offers the possibility of added tension. Perhaps you remember Moses Whitecotton and Galilee Jackson, both African American or Vena Takes Horse, a Crow woman, or Bui Khanh, a Vietnamese Buddhist, all of whom have suffered the effects of racism on some level in my first two novels.
And in this story, Gaylene Harjo and Rowena Whitekiller, Cherokee girls, know the meaning of bigotry, just as Joe Dawson is the victim of overt racism.
Bigotry and racism reflect the most vile kind of thinking and behavior in our society. My greatest hope is that my stories might lead readers to greater acceptance, tolerance, and compassion for one another.
In your introduction of all the major characters in the Prologue, and your summing
up of their fates in the Epilogue, are you consciously reaching back to the structure of
some of great novels of the nineteenth century? What prompted you to set up the novel
with that beginning and ending device?
In Shoot the Moon, I needed to give Mark Albright some distance and some time to adjust to becoming Nick
Harjo. And because the characters introduced in the Prologue play some part in my story,
I thought the readers would want to know what has transpired in the months between
Mark's departure and Nick's return.
So, the device of using a Prologue and Epilogue seemed to contribute the rhythm of
the structure of Shoot the Moon.
What subject area do you gravitate toward when you walk into a bookstore? What
books have you been reading lately? Is there any current author whose writing you
absolutely love?
I love the work of Anne Lamott, Howard Mosher, Sandra Cisneros, Pete Dexter, Maya Angelou, Anne Tyler, and Barbara Kingsolver.
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